Nice article, Sasha. It's good to hear about this side of personal finance. Personally, I think the amount of money you make is just as important as how much you save. Showing people that it's possible to make this much money could help them become wealthier, much faster.
This is similar to what I did for a living up until a few months ago. And you're right: the money is breathtaking. In my experience though, much more than 25% of the compensation was tied to performance. Performance-based bonuses accounted for 80% of mine.
You can also make significantly more than $500,000 per year. I have two friends that start private equity funds, and both of them clear over $1 million per year.
Mrs. Micah
· 2 years ago
Too stressful a job for me. With one year's worth of that money (let's assume that's the takehome) we could pay off all our debt (which is big!) and buy a new house (a smaller one at around $200k) with no mortgage and have more money left over than I earn in a year. Dang. Why does Mr. Micah's PhD have to be in philosophy?
But it's really not the life for either of us, so we'll take the lower pay and the greater happiness. But dang.
The Dividend Guy
· 2 years ago
I am willing to bet that a lot of them are in debt up to their eyeballs - fast cars, big houses.
Perhaps I am just bitter,
The Dividend Guy
plonkee
· 2 years ago
If only I'd been more interested in high finance (and decided to do a phd). Ah well, in my next life I might try this.
Laura
· 2 years ago
The money does sounds great. I wish I could work there for one year and live off that salary. I'll just be content with where I'm at and move up at my pace. Thanks for the article!
Tim
· 2 years ago
note that it is total compensation, and a large portion of that is based off of commission.
Chris
· 2 years ago
The investment banker salary would be fine with me, especially if I didn't have to add numbers together or anything.
James Woolley
· 2 years ago
I would have loved to become a portfolio manager and play with other people's money but I only got a 2:2 in Accounting and Finance.
Now manage my own portfolio and more than match some of these over-paid manager's underachieving portfolios.
mapgirl
· 2 years ago
The one PhD in Physics who was a coder, skateboarded to work in his Hawaiian shirt. He worked on mathematical modeling software for portfolio managers. He was a fun guy.
As for the money and the math, it goes together. Quant is heavy heavy math and it takes big brains to power the models.
You're right though, most of the high salaries for PhD's in math and physics are for folks that ended up coding and founding their own companies. But you can do that without a degree too.
Kris
· 2 years ago
Those numbers are stunning. Generally speaking, I know there's a small discrepancy between someone with a BA salary and someone with an MA salary, but statistically, I think there's a much larger one between an MA and a PhD. I guess it holds doubly true for these guys. Crazy.
Also - I love the phrase "math-averse." It makes me think of A) someone who doesn't like equations, or B) a universe built entirely of math. Good times.
P.S. Thanks for checking out my blog, Sasha!
Hari
· 1 year ago
I am curious to know if the 450,000 was a median or a mean estimate. We all know a couple of portfolio managers can make $15-$20 million in one year, that could inflate that average.
Evgen F.
· 9 months ago
Which degree do i need to become a portfolio manager? i am planning to take a bachelor of commerce as a gold standard in business/accounting.finance world. am i on a right track? currently i am taking some cga courses to begin in accounting and start making at least some money... i think in another year i'll be able to complete it. it's a seneca accounting and finance diploma. but then i want to switch into b.comm and go into investment banking with joint cfa and mba from concordia. am i on a right track so far?
This is similar to what I did for a living up until a few months ago. And you're right: the money is breathtaking. In my experience though, much more than 25% of the compensation was tied to performance. Performance-based bonuses accounted for 80% of mine.
You can also make significantly more than $500,000 per year. I have two friends that start private equity funds, and both of them clear over $1 million per year.
But it's really not the life for either of us, so we'll take the lower pay and the greater happiness. But dang.
Perhaps I am just bitter,
The Dividend Guy
Now manage my own portfolio and more than match some of these over-paid manager's underachieving portfolios.
As for the money and the math, it goes together. Quant is heavy heavy math and it takes big brains to power the models.
You're right though, most of the high salaries for PhD's in math and physics are for folks that ended up coding and founding their own companies. But you can do that without a degree too.
Also - I love the phrase "math-averse." It makes me think of A) someone who doesn't like equations, or B) a universe built entirely of math. Good times.
P.S. Thanks for checking out my blog, Sasha!
Evgen
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